I have the same problems joining chat programmes as Roel. The server van Gemeente Haarlem just won't let you. Chatting not allowed they tell us.
I can't say that I'm too disappointed. If you've got Twitter etc. Why should we also need to chat. It's too much. Maybe there is a moment where it could be easier but for me Twitter is easy enough.
I did however try to chat on the 23dingen website - can't remember what happened sorry...
Now for some Nancarrow - check out the same in an arrangement via my twitter link to Spotify.
